Shingeki no Kyojin Chapter 50 Discussion

Chiyonyan said:
So, it seems to me that 100 years ago there was a certain person (titan shifter obviously) who possessed the power to control titans at will (probably one of the masterminds/generals of titan invasion), but at some point of the story he switched sides and ordered colossal type titans to form three walls around humanity's last stronghold.

zellami said:
Re: Xin

^ Yeah, we call them "Collosals" because their heads are on the higher level of a 50 m wall and look like skinless Bert. But they are obviously around 40 m and their response to sunlight is damn fast. In all honesty, they can be a class of their own.

Set the skinned to 4-25 m, if you'd like.

Xinception said:


Will fix it soon then!

Also...

Again, I can't type it enough in this thread, but again.

Mikasa X Eren. Canon. Official. No Denying.

Foos

dxia said:


Well we still have to see how Eren treats her once they're back in the walls.

It probably won't be all moe. If there is romance, it will of the Royai variety.

Also, Xin, since you seem to like this idea:

The events leading up to the reveal in episodes 24 and 25 of the anime weren't canon-ed by Isayama. Needless to say, the anime reveal isn't canon either.

Eren does not rage at the Smiling Titan. He consciously chooses to protect Mikasa instead of raging. He is more in control than ever.

You know what this inconsistency means? WIT/IG had us fooled all along with this first season.

TITANHOOD. It's coming.

kawaiiyuris said:
nanananananana what the hell is happening

(but heck yes, ymir and christa)

dxia said:


I see what you did there.

Certain person = Grisha?

But if that's true, then why do the King, some of the nobles, and the Wall Cult know about this?

What if...the King is a former titan? Duh duh duh.
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Chiyonyan said:

Err, I'm pretty sure Grisha is younger than 100 years... Probably some "legendary" titan shifter or a group of shifters, hence "walls were created by them gods" part.

dxia said:

Here's the thing though. If Grisha is said shifter, then he'd be like Ymir, i.e. much older than he looks.

Hell, if the Ape or the colossal wall titans turn out to be shifters, the humans inside must be old as hell.

Touka said:
Great chapter, but why isn't Bertholdt doing anything? I know his titan form is slow n'all, but it's huge. He could just stamp out a few of those ordinary titans, instead of just sitting there and handicapping Reiner.

Touka said:
Great chapter, but why isn't Bertholdt doing anything? I know his titan form is slow n'all, but it's huge. He could just stamp out a few of those ordinary titans, instead of just sitting there and handicapping Reiner.

robinoreo said:
So much generic shounen. It hurts.

Lol'd at Eren's new ability.

Adversarius5 said:
So I have a theory. Think about it. We have only seen the story from the perspective of the people inside of the walls. We have never seen what is beyond wall Maria. How do we know there aren't other civilizations inside of walls all around the world?

With that in mind, it is possible that Bert and Reiner attacked the walls because they were looking for the coordinator or w/e which would likely be in the inner walls. After they saw that Eren could turn into a titan, they thought it was possible that he was the coordinator and tried to kidnap him to maybe explain their situation and get him on their side.

Now the question is: why do they want this power so bad? My guess is to use it against the Ape titan. Reiner and Bert are always talking about "going back home" and Annie's father told her to do what she could to return home, even if it meant making everyone her enemy. It is possible that the Ape titan has been turning people in their "village" into titans, but they don't have a chance against him because he can command lesser titans.

Also, for those who watch the anime. They have added a lot of stuff which was not in the manga (but with the okay of the mangaka). In the anime, Armin is always saying "for one to defeat a monster, one must become a monster" when he is talking about Annie and Eren. That may be foreshadowing the Ape titan .

This is all speculation though. I could be totally off. Maybe some things I said are correct though.

Xinception said:


On the Annie's Dad thread, someone said that Isayama won't go all the way to other continents. I feel that this is right. He should leave the expansion of SnK's lore to the spin-off series.

And also...

Eren X Mikasa. Official.

Had to say it.

robinoreo said:
So much generic shounen. It hurts.

Lol'd at Eren's new ability.

MikasaxEren said:

Only skinned titans?
Ymir hasn't been shown controlling titans, but Annie (who is skinless) has been shown controlling them.

tankoubon-feind said:


im sayin this whole chapter had me laughing. it was so obvious that hannes would die via generic sacrifice the moment he was introduced early on and as soon as i saw that he would be in a fight situation i knew it was time. eren punching the titan was really dumb and also his new ability to somewhat control the titans basically removes all thoughts of them being scary from my head. although laughable i still thought it was a decent chapter but i could do without the lame naruto speeches once again from eren.

Adversarius5 said:
So I have a theory. Think about it. We have only seen the story from the perspective of the people inside of the walls. We have never seen what is beyond wall Maria. How do we know there aren't other civilizations inside of walls all around the world?

With that in mind, it is possible that Bert and Reiner attacked the walls because they were looking for the coordinator or w/e which would likely be in the inner walls. After they saw that Eren could turn into a titan, they thought it was possible that he was the coordinator and tried to kidnap him to maybe explain their situation and get him on their side.

Now the question is: why do they want this power so bad? My guess is to use it against the Ape titan. Reiner and Bert are always talking about "going back home" and Annie's father told her to do what she could to return home, even if it meant making everyone her enemy. It is possible that the Ape titan has been turning people in their "village" into titans, but they don't have a chance against him because he can command lesser titans.

Also, for those who watch the anime. They have added a lot of stuff which was not in the manga (but with the okay of the mangaka). In the anime, Armin is always saying "for one to defeat a monster, one must become a monster" when he is talking about Annie and Eren. That may be foreshadowing the Ape titan .

This is all speculation though. I could be totally off. Maybe some things I said are correct though.

Jinkuro said:


It's a really good chapter if you put aside the ridiculous Eren "i'm the one" power... But we can't do that.

Xinception said:


A river episode, you mean.



Think so too, but it only happens this time when Eren's really, really determined to protect someone (Mikasa).

But think about it, Eren could build more walls by himself if he manages to find some Collosal Titans..... damn.


And I agree with them dudes who differentiated Titan Shifters into 2 groups:

• Skinned: Basically humanoid, usually 7-20 meters tall; basic Titan abilities like regeneration; weak hardening ability (Ymir's claws); explosive super strength (Eren, and to some extend, the Ape Titan); "King Bee" ability (controlling Titans).
  
  
• Skinless: Basically humanoid, but without skin; some are plated, others are naked; superior hardening abilities; semi super strength. (I'm putting those colossal Titans inside the Walls into this category also, since they're skinless. Who knows, they might be Titan Shfiters?)
  

Darklight0303 said:


Enjoy your self inflicted disappointment then.

Kamoedesu said:
I have a few theories here, and I made an account just to share~

Ok, so the Ape Titan was shown exhibiting not one, but two abilities. The ability to command titans, and the ability to create them. Connie's village was shown with the buildings destroyed, not a drop of blood or human remains at all, all of the horses in the stables, and a titan resembling Connie's mother saying "Welcome home" to him. These all point to the Ape Titan turning all of the members of Connie's village into titans. Now, remember what happened to Eren when he lost control. He was dreaming, or asleep both times. The titans attacked at night, which means that the village all became titans at night when everyone was asleep. Everyone, except for Connie's mother, who was probably awake during the transformation. The Ape Titan, fearing that she'd be able to assume control over her titan form, halted the transformation mid-way, leaving her with unusable arms and legs on top of her house.

With that out of the way, this brings me to our titan shifters. Eren was given a mysterious injection by his father after his mom died, saying "Master this ability to protect Mikasa and Armin". Obviously that injection was the Titan Shifter syrum, but there's no insight on how people can get their hands on this stuff. It definitely involves getting something from a titan and making it into an injection, I can assume that much. Now, the Warrior Trio, Bertholdt, Reiner and Annie, all demonstrate odd abilities unlike that of any normal titan, abilities unique to the individual. Annie can harden her skin, Reiner has armor, and Bert has his immense size. These abilities are not random, remember, these three are Warriors, they were hand-picked to destroy the walls and doom humanity for reasons yet unknown. Abilities that bolster their physical capabilities are perfect for this role, it makes them impervious to human weapons and it gives their bodies the durability to break through the hard stone of the walls.

However, Eren is not a Warrior, Eren was given this ability to protect people close to him, or perhaps even all of humanity, by his father, not an organization bent on destroying humanity. The power given to him wouldn't be something like the Warrior Trio, it would be something far more powerful and fearsome. The ability to command titans to attack a specific target, or to leave something alone, a power only one other titan has demonstrated. The Ape Titan. Eren's abilities are derived from the Ape Titan, meaning Grisha knows more about the titans than anyone else.

Ymir, however, is a whole other story. Ymir stole her power, Ymir, who lives only for herself, would pick something powerful to steal. She probably had access to this ability, but seeing how it was 60 years ago, the ability was either weaker, incomplete, or simply the same. Ymir didn't have someone to administer the syrum to her, she did it herself, so she didn't have anyone to instruct her of it's side-effects, she lost control when she became a titan and lived among them for 60 years, the "Titan control" ability perhaps unconsciously protecting her from being eaten as a shifter, or even giving her titan form dominance over the others by way of fear compliance, thus explaining "Ymir-sama".

The tl;dr version, titan shifter abilities are based on the kind of syrum they're given, Bert, Reiner and Annie were given physically-bolstering syrums to destroy the wall, Eren was given a titan-controlling syrum to protect humanity, Ymir possibly stole this same syrum because that's how she is, but it backfired on her for 60 years.

Jinkuro said:


It's ok if you liked that specific aspect. We don't have the same expectations for this manga, that's all.

Tatiko said:
Lezz share theories guuuyss. Lezz satisfy our deep curiosities about le factions and le titans. :">
Starts now. :D

HollowV2 said:
Fucking awesome... Hannes got the death I'd hope he get. We didn't even get to see him fight LOL. Died a dogs death, good riddance. And eren x mikasa FTW. Anyone realize eren has somewhat the same power as the monkey titan?