VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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cold_arctus said:
Now try to launch the game through RenPy SDK or recompile the game.

Make sure the game appears on the left panel in RenPy SDK. If it isn't, switch to "preferences/settings" and set path to the game.
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How do I do that? There are two applications with Ren'Py and both of them only open up a white window.
 
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Robwood said:
How do I do that? There are two programs with Ren'Py and both of them only open up a white window.
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If you don't see something like this, when you run renpy(-32).exe, then your system is either outdated or fucked. Apparently you have issues running other games as well as can be seen in your post history. Pretty much that your system is fucked and that you need to reinstall Windows etc.
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If you don't see something like this, when you run renpy(-32).exe, then your system is either outdated or fucked. Apparently you have issues running other games as well as can be seen in your post history. Pretty much that your system is fucked and that you need to reinstall Windows etc.
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I'll go with outdated. I'm running Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit. I'm not going to be able to play this game, am I?
 
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Dr.Fapalot said:
Like you, I'm afraid I have to disagree with your comments as well. So let me try to rebut some of your comments here.

"Liam does not take Dylan to games because he is at his job. Why will he leave work just to drop Dylan to the games when Sophia is free around that time and can do it. In a normal household ( though this household is no longer normal but still ) responsibilities are shared."

First of all, Liam doesn't work 24hrs a day and 7days a week every day. He does get time off as well. Also, Sophia teaches at a school as a primary job and has two other side job tasks. Here are two examples of Liam not taking Dylan to practice, and this happened on the weekend of days 14 and 15.

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You talk about shared responsibility, but in the examples I provided, you can clearly see that on Saturday, Liam went to work for a little bit then went to then picked up alcohol for the game they watched on TV that evening, only to follow up with Liam going fishing in the morning. I think the story text from both previews speaks for itself. Liam made it sound it was a chore for him to take Dylan to practice instead of taking an interest in Dylan and take some responsibility in this scene. Which you can also see him teasing Dylan about the sport he plays to Sophia. So yes, my thoughts shift to him being an Asshole overall, as you can find more examples in the novel.

"Dylan in my eyes hasn't changed much even after the jogging event. He stood up for his mother that's a good thing but apart from that, his conversation with Sophia right from the start of the event was way more direct and always falling back to something sexual or inappropriate to talk to your mother about, something he has been doing in all the events. The first opportunity he got to grab her butt, he took it. He's still just as perverted, the next event should give us a better picture, because in this event all the perversion and inappropriateness gets clouded because Dylan stands up for Sophia."

Everyone in this novel has a Sexual or Inappropriate comment with Sophia. Hell, Ellie and Patricia are prime examples of this. Suppose you watch the shower scenes with Sophia/Ellie and the pool event with Julie or the club scene and yoga event that is way beyond inappropriate for their current relationship. It's no different than what Dylan is doing now; the only difference is Dylan is touching her through her fabric, and Ellie has some close "Skinship" going on right now.

Also, When you follow Dylan from the start. He was really perverted. Dylan looks like he was making his own "First Person Shooter" game, Spying, Begging Sophia to show her body for the first 11 P.Ds. Now when they jog together, IMO, they are having a mature conversation because they are still in the "SEX-ED," LOL, phase of the novel. So she is still teaching Dylan about women up to this point. Now touching her butt was over the top, but I wonder if L&P was trying to do this out of an impulse to show self-confidence booster for Dylan to defend Sophia. This is why I thought the fight scene was not the correct event to use to "Break the Ice" with Sophia and Dylan.

"About the hobos, I don't think it has anything to do with Dylan taking advantage of the situation or anything to do with how it is unfair to fight a drunk man. Those guys were saying and gesturing all sorts of despicable things to his mother. Anyone would lose their mind. How can he let slide when his mother is being harassed."

Again, anyone who's been around drunk people knows that they say and do obnoxious things. It's called being impaired. Usually, people tell drunk people to move along, or you leave it alone and move along. Now, IMO, if the scene played out differently like if Dylan stopped by the park restroom with Sophia and as he came out and saw the hobo trying to hit on her and invading her personal space, like the subway thugs, and he rushed over to defend her, I could see that playing out better because it went from being obnoxious to getting too close which would make Sophia feel uncomfortable.
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Now the flaws in your explanation imo.

1. Liam does not work 24/7 yes but he is at work during the time when Dylan needs to be taken to practice. So he can't take him there.
Sophia's "primary job" is only part-time for 2 periods 3 days of the week. The side job, she pretty much chooses which day to go and which day not to. The second side job just started. And she can only be doing "1" sidejob not both.

Day 14 Liam does not take Dylan to his practice but that is because he has to go to work, he will be back by afternoon and Dylan needs to be taken there in 2 hrs. He can't do it. He definitely isn't making an excuse because the guy is shown to be genuinely busy all week round so preparing something for Monday doesn't sound that unbelievable. Plus ofcourse anyone would chose dropping there son off to practice than make an excuse and go to work. He also acknowledged that maybe Sophia IS right and he shouldn't make fun of his sports choice. And I don't think he has made fun of it again after that ( though I am not certain on this and needs to be checked )

On day 15 now, as previously mentioned Liam is busy. He leaves early in the morning before anyone wakes up and comes back home late, all day long he is working, he gets one Sunday to relax and you think on that day he should again spend it doing things, can't a man atleast take a day's break. If you think that then you're just being way too harsh. Liam is clearly working more than 12 hrs a day.

2. Okay, you are forgetting that even in the bikini event ( last proper scene with Dylan before the jogging event ) he acts way more mature in the solo Dylan scene. He tries to be professional which is acknowledged by Sophia herself. He takes the occasional liberty to push the boundary but he does that in the jogging event too. But you consider him immature until day 11 and suddenly just one event makes him mature even though there is no reduction in his perversion but just an additional good act. Just one event can't be a basis for considering a character is now taking a turn. You need to see a few more events and then only can a conclusion be reached if there is an actual change.

3. Okay, this could be your outlook.. But keeping personal thoughts aside. You are talking about a more mature outlook to this situation. This is a 16 yr old boy you are talking about, who is clearly immature as established Throughout the story. Even in this very event we see he is still immature as he mentions he is taking revenge on those who were trying to bully him recently. Teenagers are hot headed and are ready to throw fists at the slightest excuse. So it a perfectly logically approach in the way the scene is written. Also Dylan is very possessive about his mother, enough evidence of that is available in the game.
 
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Dr.Fapalot said:
Like you, I'm afraid I have to disagree with your comments as well. So let me try to rebut some of your comments here.

"Liam does not take Dylan to games because he is at his job. Why will he leave work just to drop Dylan to the games when Sophia is free around that time and can do it. In a normal household ( though this household is no longer normal but still ) responsibilities are shared."

First of all, Liam doesn't work 24hrs a day and 7days a week every day. He does get time off as well. Also, Sophia teaches at a school as a primary job and has two other side job tasks. Here are two examples of Liam not taking Dylan to practice, and this happened on the weekend of days 14 and 15.

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You talk about shared responsibility, but in the examples I provided, you can clearly see that on Saturday, Liam went to work for a little bit then went to then picked up alcohol for the game they watched on TV that evening, only to follow up with Liam going fishing in the morning. I think the story text from both previews speaks for itself. Liam made it sound it was a chore for him to take Dylan to practice instead of taking an interest in Dylan and take some responsibility in this scene. Which you can also see him teasing Dylan about the sport he plays to Sophia. So yes, my thoughts shift to him being an Asshole overall, as you can find more examples in the novel.

"Dylan in my eyes hasn't changed much even after the jogging event. He stood up for his mother that's a good thing but apart from that, his conversation with Sophia right from the start of the event was way more direct and always falling back to something sexual or inappropriate to talk to your mother about, something he has been doing in all the events. The first opportunity he got to grab her butt, he took it. He's still just as perverted, the next event should give us a better picture, because in this event all the perversion and inappropriateness gets clouded because Dylan stands up for Sophia."

Everyone in this novel has a Sexual or Inappropriate comment with Sophia. Hell, Ellie and Patricia are prime examples of this. Suppose you watch the shower scenes with Sophia/Ellie and the pool event with Julie or the club scene and yoga event that is way beyond inappropriate for their current relationship. It's no different than what Dylan is doing now; the only difference is Dylan is touching her through her fabric, and Ellie has some close "Skinship" going on right now.

Also, When you follow Dylan from the start. He was really perverted. Dylan looks like he was making his own "First Person Shooter" game, Spying, Begging Sophia to show her body for the first 11 P.Ds. Now when they jog together, IMO, they are having a mature conversation because they are still in the "SEX-ED," LOL, phase of the novel. So she is still teaching Dylan about women up to this point. Now touching her butt was over the top, but I wonder if L&P was trying to do this out of an impulse to show self-confidence booster for Dylan to defend Sophia. This is why I thought the fight scene was not the correct event to use to "Break the Ice" with Sophia and Dylan.

"About the hobos, I don't think it has anything to do with Dylan taking advantage of the situation or anything to do with how it is unfair to fight a drunk man. Those guys were saying and gesturing all sorts of despicable things to his mother. Anyone would lose their mind. How can he let slide when his mother is being harassed."

Again, anyone who's been around drunk people knows that they say and do obnoxious things. It's called being impaired. Usually, people tell drunk people to move along, or you leave it alone and move along. Now, IMO, if the scene played out differently like if Dylan stopped by the park restroom with Sophia and as he came out and saw the hobo trying to hit on her and invading her personal space, like the subway thugs, and he rushed over to defend her, I could see that playing out better because it went from being obnoxious to getting too close which would make Sophia feel uncomfortable.
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Besides on this morning of day 15, I wonder where Liam can he went fishing lol.
They are in a megacity.
He must have traveled quite a bit before he found a river or a lake. :unsure:
 
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Scarlet56 said:
Besides on this morning of day 15, I wonder where Liam can he went fishing lol.
They are in a megacity.
He must have traveled quite a bit before he found a river or a lake. :unsure:
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It was already earlier, by others here in the forum, the assumption was expressed that Liam did not only incur the debts in the casino during one visit. Going fishing could only have been an excuse. I know that's an almost ridiculous guess.
But how about if Sophia found out about it at the optional Morello event. The player can choose: If Sophia is there with Liam who has often been to the casino, if she stays away from the meetings, she will never know about it (similar to the Dylan Twist). Participation could be important for the Sophia / Dylan route. But would have no effect on the other corruption routes. And it would justify why Sophia lies to her husband again and again later.
 
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Scarlet56 said:
Besides on this morning of day 15, I wonder where Liam can he went fishing lol.
They are in a megacity.
He must have traveled quite a bit before he found a river or a lake. :unsure:
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It took half an hour to get "into the unknown" for the 3rd task
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Remember? ;)
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There weren't squirrels and beavers as we speculated but, still, I guess you can find a river or a lake to go fishing in this environment ;)

And do not forget that 3000m high mountain where the airport is built, it's just 20-25mins from the city :ROFLMAO:
 
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xxxorro said:
It took half an hour to get "into the unknown" for the 3rd task
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Remember? ;)
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There weren't squirrels and beavers as we speculated but, still, I guess you can find a river or a lake to go fishing in this environment ;)

And do not forget that 3000m high mountain where the airport is built, it's just 20-25mins from the city :ROFLMAO:
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This is how Dylan would have driven

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Dr.Fapalot said:
Like you, I'm afraid I have to disagree with your comments as well. So let me try to rebut some of your comments here.

"Liam does not take Dylan to games because he is at his job. Why will he leave work just to drop Dylan to the games when Sophia is free around that time and can do it. In a normal household ( though this household is no longer normal but still ) responsibilities are shared."

First of all, Liam doesn't work 24hrs a day and 7days a week every day. He does get time off as well. Also, Sophia teaches at a school as a primary job and has two other side job tasks. Here are two examples of Liam not taking Dylan to practice, and this happened on the weekend of days 14 and 15.

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You talk about shared responsibility, but in the examples I provided, you can clearly see that on Saturday, Liam went to work for a little bit then went to then picked up alcohol for the game they watched on TV that evening, only to follow up with Liam going fishing in the morning. I think the story text from both previews speaks for itself. Liam made it sound it was a chore for him to take Dylan to practice instead of taking an interest in Dylan and take some responsibility in this scene. Which you can also see him teasing Dylan about the sport he plays to Sophia. So yes, my thoughts shift to him being an Asshole overall, as you can find more examples in the novel.

"Dylan in my eyes hasn't changed much even after the jogging event. He stood up for his mother that's a good thing but apart from that, his conversation with Sophia right from the start of the event was way more direct and always falling back to something sexual or inappropriate to talk to your mother about, something he has been doing in all the events. The first opportunity he got to grab her butt, he took it. He's still just as perverted, the next event should give us a better picture, because in this event all the perversion and inappropriateness gets clouded because Dylan stands up for Sophia."

Everyone in this novel has a Sexual or Inappropriate comment with Sophia. Hell, Ellie and Patricia are prime examples of this. Suppose you watch the shower scenes with Sophia/Ellie and the pool event with Julie or the club scene and yoga event that is way beyond inappropriate for their current relationship. It's no different than what Dylan is doing now; the only difference is Dylan is touching her through her fabric, and Ellie has some close "Skinship" going on right now.

Also, When you follow Dylan from the start. He was really perverted. Dylan looks like he was making his own "First Person Shooter" game, Spying, Begging Sophia to show her body for the first 11 P.Ds. Now when they jog together, IMO, they are having a mature conversation because they are still in the "SEX-ED," LOL, phase of the novel. So she is still teaching Dylan about women up to this point. Now touching her butt was over the top, but I wonder if L&P was trying to do this out of an impulse to show self-confidence booster for Dylan to defend Sophia. This is why I thought the fight scene was not the correct event to use to "Break the Ice" with Sophia and Dylan.

"About the hobos, I don't think it has anything to do with Dylan taking advantage of the situation or anything to do with how it is unfair to fight a drunk man. Those guys were saying and gesturing all sorts of despicable things to his mother. Anyone would lose their mind. How can he let slide when his mother is being harassed."

Again, anyone who's been around drunk people knows that they say and do obnoxious things. It's called being impaired. Usually, people tell drunk people to move along, or you leave it alone and move along. Now, IMO, if the scene played out differently like if Dylan stopped by the park restroom with Sophia and as he came out and saw the hobo trying to hit on her and invading her personal space, like the subway thugs, and he rushed over to defend her, I could see that playing out better because it went from being obnoxious to getting too close which would make Sophia feel uncomfortable.
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I don’t really have a problem with the way Dylan handled the situation. After all, he’s still a teenager so even if that wasn’t the most mature response, I can totally see a teenager doing that kind of thing.

The weird one here is Sophia who see all that and think that was the appropriate response in this situation, doesn’t matter that the guys were drunk, more annoying than threatening, that the guy Dylan knocked out face planted and could have sustained serious injuries to his face...

Apparently, he’s now a “man” in Sophia eyes...

Who knows, maybe next time, a group of 6 years old will make fun of Sophia haircut and Dylan will roundhouse kick their face, which will make Sophia wet while thinking what a man he has become:LOL:.

Joking aside, I think that there was other way that the “ defending someone honor ” could have been portrayed that would put a better light on Dylan (for those who have a problem with his actions in this event) and Sophia (for her reaction to Dylan actions) while still staying true to their characters.

Which can’t be really said with how the “homeless charity shelter event" or whatever it’s called was introduced.

The way Dylan talk to his mom in that scene is so ridiculous that’s it’s almost comical :

Sophia: This guys are so annoying...

Dylan: Maybe you should put yourself in their shoes you entitled homelessphobic woman.

S : Huh?!

D : You know what, you should hangout with them so maybe you will learn some humility, you intolerant bitch...!

S : Wha...

D : Didn’t you said you wanted to do that kind of thing before ? Well it’s time to prove you’re not all talk.!

S : It’s true but...

D : You should follow m’y advice.
You know what ? Where are the papers, I sign you right now !

(Dylan the “woke)
 
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It was already earlier, by others here in the forum, the assumption was expressed that Liam did not only incur the debts in the casino during one visit. Going fishing could only have been an excuse. I know that's an almost ridiculous guess.
But how about if Sophia found out about it at the optional Morello event. The player can choose: If Sophia is there with Liam who has often been to the casino, if she stays away from the meetings, she will never know about it (similar to the Dylan Twist). Participation could be important for the Sophia / Dylan route. But would have no effect on the other corruption routes. And it would justify why Sophia lies to her husband again and again later.
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Frankly, I don't think there should be any scriptwriting mystery in it but simply a mistake on the part of L&P.
This is something you say when you live in a medium or small town. (See, a small village).
 
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I don’t really have a problem with the way Dylan handled the situation. After all, he’s still a teenager so even if that wasn’t the most mature response, I can totally see a teenager doing that kind of thing.

The weird one here is Sophia who see all that and think that was the appropriate response in this situation, doesn’t matter that the guys were drunk, more annoying than threatening, that the guy Dylan knocked out face planted and could have sustained serious injuries to his face...

Apparently, he’s now a “man” in Sophia eyes...

Who knows, maybe next time, a group of 6 years old will make fun of Sophia haircut and Dylan will roundhouse kick their face, which will make Sophia wet while thinking what a man he has become:LOL:.

Joking aside, I think that there was other way that the “ defending someone honor ” could have been portrayed that would put a better light on Dylan (for those who have a problem with his actions in this event) and Sophia (for her reaction to Dylan actions) while still staying true to their characters.

Which can’t be really said with how the “homeless charity shelter event" or whatever it’s called was introduced.

The way Dylan talk to his mom in that scene is so ridiculous that’s it’s almost comical :

Sophia: This guys are so annoying...

Dylan: Maybe you should put yourself in their shoes you entitled homelessphobic woman.

S : Huh?!

D : You know what, you should hangout with them so maybe you will learn some humility, you intolerant bitch...!

S : Wha...

D : Didn’t you said you wanted to do that kind of thing before ? Well it’s time to prove you’re not all talk.!

S : It’s true but...

D : You should follow m’y advice.
You know what ? Where are the papers, I sign you right now !

(Dylan the “woke)
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Good point. I think what we see here is proof that he does not work from a completed script. If he had this all worked out there would be a good source to review and correct errors in the plot before it gets to the audience. Further, he would have more coherent concepts presented and definitely better dialogue / narrative for a few of these scenes. This scene, you describe issues with it quite well (IMO) and the other scene in the update that defied credulity (and will not be mentioned to save everyone's time). My impression is he is creating then scripting. Or at best has a loose outline that he then creates his art to support going back later to work the actual words.

And Dylan cannot be 'woke' since it is all about him. As Brother will attest.:LOL:
 
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Dylan sucks Sofia's nipples as soon as possible, according to L&P's hints and description of yoga events. Dylan is the reason Sofia's nipples get bigger, as she says at the Sophia Yoga Event.Dylan was always sucking on them like crazy as a baby , he could never get enough . I mean in the upcoming events, Dylan can suck Sophia's nipples and enlarge them, As I have noticed at every Dylan events, Dylan often watches Sofia's breasts and butt. Sophia knows exactly what Dylan wants , soon as possible she's ready to give him what he wants. Come on (Tiger);) Dylan:love::love:

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In the last events of the game,(Dylan makes Sophia pregnant) Sophia becomes pregnant and then gives birth to Dylan's baby and then give the baby her nipples‍. One breast to Dylan, then another to his baby. :love::love:

sorry english is not my native language
 
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